What do you think about creating and conditioning humans in Brave New World?

Adela wrote:Scoolfriend i believe now Brave New World decribe a society with to times . First , it's describing the artificial creation of baby which is good and second the conditioning of baby. There are an oposition because for me if somoeone creat baby, he should make him free instead of traumatised him and conditionig him.

This is right, i think the same thing. Moreover, babies who are created artificially don't have parents. Just people who traumatised them. I don't see the logical thing...

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Amélie21 wrote:The people in this novel are like us: they got their own feelings but they not think by themselves

Is this a problem? Why should people think by themselves?

Yes it is a problem because we all have differents thoughts and ideas, and this difference make our world. They should be think by themselves because the thoughts are supposed to be free.. Even if they can't acted like they want, the freedom of the thoughts is the most important freedom so take adventage of it ..

I want say, the humans will not exist and clones substitute veritable humans.. I not speak of movie, but of Brave New World !!!!!!!!

I think its a violent fact to send electric shock in babies during the conditionning process.

If creating babies artificiels, there are no war.

I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

In the novel, the director thinks that identity is less important than control on the production of human. But I think that it's the opposite: human need to have an identity in order to built theirs own lives !

AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

For me, the creating and conditionning of babies is not human. Maybe there is no war and ensure the stability & peace in the world but everyone is only and it's pity to looks someone while to have the possibility to be only and for me it's unfair to control someone and make him what do you want to do whith him

i am against conditioning babies because i think it’s horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies and It’s unfair to control someone, and make him what do you want with him. It's not human !

But, if create babies artificiel, people have not personality, because they are same people.

I think the conditionnement of babies is to the end horrible and interressing .
Is interressing in fact of the babies are conditionning to like or dislake something. There aren't differents and the babies in the greeks letters' groups. The groups assure the stability and they futur life.

But is horrible to electrocute babies for their futur.. This is cruel and inhumain.

Marine1L1 wrote:I think its a violent fact to send electric shock in babies during the conditionning process.

I totally agree whith you,I think it's a violent fact and I think it's not human to make that.

I found this experience cruel and horrible.

People are all the same, it is not interessant, because they don't have particulary of personnality.

Clémentine1 wrote:

AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

Maévaa wrote:i am against conditioning babies because i think it’s horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies and It’s unfair to control someone, and make him what do you want with him. It's not human !

No it's the sciences.

I think that creating babies is not a bad thing, it can avoid a lot of problem for the mother, or to loose the baby : in this world, they can't die before growing up.

But conditioning them with this violence is not moral. The Governement wants more stability and to have more money and for that he use the inhabitants of the state and, in a certain way, the governement controls the think of the population. And at least, giving electric shock to an innocent baby is not an ethical thing or a justifiable act.

I think creating babies artificially is not a good thing for human beings for unethical reason : -an embryo in a womb is a natural fact and the human can't change this.

Gaelle26 wrote:But, if create babies artificiel, people have not personality, because they are same people.

And ?

Gaelle26 wrote:But, if create babies artificiel, people have not personality, because they are same people.

I agree with you, I think it’s unfair to control someone, and make him what do you want with him.

- Alice and Agathe have good ideas : babies must know their parents or
they can have a personnalitys problem, if you don't know where you are
from, you can't make your way in the world.

The babies are needs to the affection of their parents but if they are not parents they are not affection.

That's why it takes stop the creating and conditioning human.

It's cruel to private people to they life. Private to life personel.

About creating and conditionning babies in Brave New World I think it's not human. Babies are not objects, are humans. And I think they don't creating artificially babies to make a new world.

corentin3 wrote:I think creating babies artificially is not a good thing for human beings for unethical reason : -an embryo in a womb is a natural fact and the human can't change this.

I agree with you, the incubators it's not the same of the real womb.