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Post  Pauline-25 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:28

corentin3 wrote:I think creating babies artificially is not a good thing for human beings for unethical reason : -an embryo in a womb is a natural fact and the human can't change this.
I agree with you, the incubators it's not the same of the real womb.

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Post  Marine1L1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:28

Maévaa wrote:
Clémentine1 wrote:
AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else

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Post  LauraT on Tue 24 Jan - 7:29

Pauline-25 wrote:everyone is only

I'm agree with you. Everyone have right to an identity.

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Post  AudreyG on Tue 24 Jan - 7:29

Gaelle26 wrote:If creating babies artificiels, there are no war.

Maybe there are no war because it's a way of ensure stability and peace but I thinks that controlling population it's unfair !

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Post  Letizia on Tue 24 Jan - 7:29

It's not the good manner for conditionning babies to enter in the world. --'

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Post  Marine1L1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:31

Letizia wrote:It's not the good manner for conditionning babies to enter in the world. --'

So you have another manner ?

It's progress !

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Post  Letizia on Tue 24 Jan - 7:32

I'm really don't agree with the director and his manner of conditionning.

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Post  LauraT on Tue 24 Jan - 7:32

Letizia wrote:It's not the good manner for conditionning babies to enter in the world. --'

What else?? Question

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Post  Maévaa on Tue 24 Jan - 7:32

Letizia wrote:I found this experience cruel and horrible.

People are all the same, it is not interessant, because they don't have particulary of personnality.

I am agree with you when you tell that it's not interresant when people have not personality and not identity but a creating babies artificially enable that there is no war in the world.


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Post  corentin3 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:33

- if you consider someone to be an object, you have no respect for this person. what can he do for you if you have no respect for him ? Nothing but if you forced him to love what you would he make what you want but it's not a good thing for humans relation...

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Post  Auriane on Tue 24 Jan - 7:33

Marine1L1 wrote:
Maévaa wrote:
Clémentine1 wrote:
AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else



It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...

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Post  MaëligCassin on Tue 24 Jan - 7:33

I agree with Clémentine1, the human are needs identities. An identity it's the evidence to our existence.

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Post  Clémentine1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:33

If babies don't come out from the womb of a woman, they are not made by nature so they can't be considered as human, because humans are creating by nature, only creatures and robot are creating by science.

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Post  Pauline-25 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:34

Letizia wrote:I'm really don't agree with the director and his manner of conditionning.
I agree with you and I don't understand what the director is looking for making that.

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Post  Letizia on Tue 24 Jan - 7:34

Marine1L1 wrote:
Letizia wrote:It's not the good manner for conditionning babies to enter in the world. --'

So you have another manner ?

It's progress !

babies don't need to be conditionned. They learn the life with the time and any experience.

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Post  LauraT on Tue 24 Jan - 7:34

corentin3 wrote:- if you consider someone to be an object, you have no respect for this person. what can he do for you if you have no respect for him ? Nothing but if you forced him to love what you would he make what you want but it's not a good thing for humans relation...

Philosophy Smile

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Post  Gaelle26 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:34

Marine1L1 wrote:
Gaelle26 wrote:But, if create babies artificiel, people have not personality, because they are same people.

And ?
If they are no personality, we can't make the difference between a people and an a other.

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Post  MaëligCassin on Tue 24 Jan - 7:36

Auriane wrote:
Marine1L1 wrote:
Maévaa wrote:
Clémentine1 wrote:
AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else



It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...

I'm totally agree with you.

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Post  Marine1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:36

I thinks the conditionning it's horrible for the babies because they undergo electronic shocks. later the humans are not human, they are robot

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Post  fafa-yeah on Tue 24 Jan - 7:37

I think the conditioning of children is inhumain . They are not free and they will never have true feelings I love you . they will love only what they have been imoposed , they are raised as pets albino . The baby will never identity and to exist it must have its own identity .

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Post  Maureen1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:37

Clémentine1 wrote:If babies don't come out from the womb of a woman, they are not made by nature so they can't be considered as human, because humans are creating by nature, only creatures and robot are creating by science.

Absolutely, humans need to be from nature, if they aren't, they are not human. At least, in my thoughts.

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Post  Marine1L1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:37

MaëligCassin wrote:I agree with Clémentine1, the human are needs identities. An identity it's the evidence to our existence.

Yes but if they don't know what have identity is, they don't need to have identity.

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Post  corentin3 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:37

Auriane wrote:
Marine1L1 wrote:
Maévaa wrote:
Clémentine1 wrote:
AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else



It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...
you can't be unhappy if you didn't know happiness. So they can just be happy in their life.


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Post  Maévaa on Tue 24 Jan - 7:37

Auriane wrote:
Marine1L1 wrote:
Maévaa wrote:
Clémentine1 wrote:
AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.

Totally agree with that point.

I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !

No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else



It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...

oh! and you like it that you undergo a electrick shock ?

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Post  LauraT on Tue 24 Jan - 7:38

Maévaa wrote:
Letizia wrote:I found this experience cruel and horrible.

People are all the same, it is not interessant, because they don't have particulary of personnality.

I am agree with you when you tell that it's not interresant when people have not personality and not identity but a creating babies artificially enable that there is no war in the world.



But, do the fact of there are not war justificate the fact of creating babies and shock them?

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Post  Maureen1 on Tue 24 Jan - 7:39

fafa-yeah wrote:I think the conditioning of children is inhumain . They are not free and they will never have true feelings I love you . they will love only what they have been imoposed , they are raised as pets albino . The baby will never identity and to exist it must have its own identity .

Yes, they should learn about what they love and what they don't like, while growing up and not because people are obliging them to love certain things.

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