What do you think about creating and conditioning humans in Brave New World?
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Pauline-25 wrote:And if they are the same, the life is not the real life because the real life it's when the person are only and where the conflicts are present.Marine1L1 wrote:Gaelle26 : And ? If they are the same people, they don't have conflicts.
Sorry Marine1L1, i'm agree with Gaelle26...

Maévaa- Posts : 9
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Maévaa wrote:I'am against a creating babies artificially because everyone looks like everyone. So, it isn’t interesting that people are the same because a life will be morose and splenetic.
I'm agree because if everyone are the same, the world this is will be boring. Nobody are this own personnality and physical apparence because in the Brave New World said babies are artificially and cloning.
Janis- Posts : 2
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Maureen1 wrote:Pauline-25 wrote:I don't understand why the babies are consider to natural babies whereas they are created in artificial womb.
Because it's science, and not nature. But that's my point of vue
The babies are considered to natural babies because they resemble at a normal baby.
MaëligCassin- Posts : 8
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Enzo7 wrote:Maybe they don't have conflict but they aren't different , they look like everyone else . There is no personnality , just one wich is to everybodyMarine1L1 wrote:Gaelle26 : And ? If they are the same people, they don't have conflicts.
So what ? Maybe they are very happy !
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Clémentine1 wrote:MaëligCassin wrote:Gaelle26 wrote:I'm agree with you. Although it's a progress for the director, it's not good for people.Letizia wrote:I found this experience cruel and horrible.
People are all the same, it is not interessant, because they don't have particulary of personnality.
It's interessant! Since is a technologie advance.
The technology advance but the identity is lost with the progress...
We can't make a world only with the technologie. Nature is more important for create identity...
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I agree with you, it's not logical..Auriane wrote:So the state has to change the " identity " in the slogan, if the people don't know what it is to have an identity ? their system is not logical..
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Janis wrote:Maévaa wrote:I'am against a creating babies artificially because everyone looks like everyone. So, it isn’t interesting that people are the same because a life will be morose and splenetic.
I'm agree because if everyone are the same, the world this is will be boring. Nobody are this own personnality and physical apparence because in the Brave New World said babies are artificially and cloning.
I'm agree too.

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The electrick shock are just here for make people more profitable for the society, it can be a good thing for an economical point of vueMarine1L1 wrote:Why not ? They are babies, the don't know what happen !Maévaa wrote:Auriane wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Maévaa wrote:Clémentine1 wrote:AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.
Totally agree with that point.
I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !
No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else
It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...
oh! and you like it that you undergo a electrick shock ?
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Maureen1 wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Why not ? They ara babies, the don't know what happen/Maévaa wrote:Auriane wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Maévaa wrote:Clémentine1 wrote:AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.
Totally agree with that point.
I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !
No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else
It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...
oh! and you like it that you undergo a electrick shock ?
Because that's disgusting to do that to innocent babies, they're suffering.
And? the babies are human ! To be a baby it's not a argument to apologise this horror !
Maévaa- Posts : 9
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Letizia wrote:
We can't make a world only with the technologie. Nature is more important for create identity...
It's not the nature who create your identity, but you. In this world, they don't have the choice, and so they can't, but you can have an identity and live in a technological world - like our - , no ?
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Auriane wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Why not ? They ara babies, the don't know what happen/
Yes, but they feel the electric shock too ! Even if they're babies, they will be hurted
They aren't hurt. They are a little disturbed.
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Yes, a little disturb, so they yell on the floor and cry ... But it's true that they probably won't remember this, except in their hate of books and nature ^^'
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corentin3 wrote:The electrick shock are just here for make people more profitable for the society, it can be a good thing for an economical point of vueMarine1L1 wrote:Why not ? They are babies, the don't know what happen !Maévaa wrote:Auriane wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Maévaa wrote:Clémentine1 wrote:AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.
Totally agree with that point.
I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !
No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else
It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...
oh! and you like it that you undergo a electrick shock ?
Of course. But the director have an economical point of vue !
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Maévaa wrote: And? the babies are human ! To be a baby it's not a argument to apologise this horror !
I didn't said that it's disgusting just because they're babies, i just relate it to the text. I agree that even an adult shouldn't be treated like that. But here it's about babies.
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you haven't got personnality but there is no war in the world ... What is the more interesting ?MaëligCassin wrote:Janis wrote:Maévaa wrote:I'am against a creating babies artificially because everyone looks like everyone. So, it isn’t interesting that people are the same because a life will be morose and splenetic.
I'm agree because if everyone are the same, the world this is will be boring. Nobody are this own personnality and physical apparence because in the Brave New World said babies are artificially and cloning.
I'm agree too.
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and that's why the electrick shock are interestingMarine1L1 wrote:corentin3 wrote:The electrick shock are just here for make people more profitable for the society, it can be a good thing for an economical point of viewMarine1L1 wrote:Why not ? They are babies, the don't know what happen !Maévaa wrote:Auriane wrote:Marine1L1 wrote:Maévaa wrote:Clémentine1 wrote:AudreyG wrote:I think that it's horrible to make undergo electric shock of babies in order to conditioning there.
Totally agree with that point.
I am agree, because i think i'ts not human !
No it's sciences. It's the progress and maybe they are happy like that, because they don’t know anything else
It's right, but being create or conditionate can't delete the fact that they have dreams and feelings too, and maybe they are happy, but it will be superficial, and ephemeral. What ever happend if they begin to think just by themselves ? They are not supposed too, but the brain of an human is too complex to be controled like that, and all the people - even if they look alike - don't have the same needs...
oh! and you like it that you undergo a electrick shock ?
Of course. But the director have an economical point of view !
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I agree, the process ensure stability but there are not identity because everyone looks like everyone..Marine1 wrote:I agree with you, it's not logical..Auriane wrote:So the state has to change the " identity " in the slogan, if the people don't know what it is to have an identity ? their system is not logical..
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Marine1 wrote:I agree with you, it's not logical..Auriane wrote:So the state has to change the " identity " in the slogan, if the people don't know what it is to have an identity ? their system is not logical..
I'm agree too. But in the Brave New World the identity it's not important to make an utopia.
MaëligCassin- Posts : 8
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I am agree with you when you tell that it's not interresant when people have not personality and not identity but a creating babies artificially enable that there is no war in the world.
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True. They are a lot of conflicts in this world and this forever. We can't change that. create babies artificially don't change that. War is always present.
Letizia wrote:I found this experience cruel and horrible.
People are all the same, it is not interessant, because they don't have particulary of personnality.
I am agree with you when you tell that it's not interresant when people have not personality and not identity but a creating babies artificially enable that there is no war in the world.
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True. They are a lot of conflicts in this world and this forever. We can't change that. create babies artificially don't change that. War is always present.
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fafa-yeah wrote:fafa-yeah wrote:I think the conditioning of children is inhumain . They are not free and they will never have true feelings. they will love only what they have been imoposed , they are raised as pets
. The baby will never identity and to exist it must have its own identity .
they do not own traits , and they do no have their own physical . Theuy have no familly becouse they are artificially created .
The embryos are viewed as mere objects , they are '' build '' as a factory .
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Maybe it's progress but it's awful !Marine1L1 wrote:Letizia wrote:It's not the good manner for conditionning babies to enter in the world. --'
So you have another manner ?
It's progress !
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Auriane wrote:Yes, a little disturb, so they yell on the floor and cry ... But it's true that they probably won't remember this, except in their hate of books and nature ^^'
Babies yell everytime !
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Auriane wrote:Letizia wrote:
We can't make a world only with the technologie. Nature is more important for create identity...
It's not the nature who create your identity, but you. In this world, they don't have the choice, and so they can't, but you can have an identity and live in a technological world - like our - , no ?
I'm agree with Auriane. Is not the nature which creating your personnality but your family, your friends and your life. In this novel, he remplace only the womb of the mother and writte their life before their "birth" without out help.
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Marine1L1 wrote:Enzo7 wrote:Maybe they don't have conflict but they aren't different , they look like everyone else . There is no personnality , just one wich is to everybodyMarine1L1 wrote:Gaelle26 : And ? If they are the same people, they don't have conflicts.
So what ? Maybe they are very happy !
I'm not sure that they are happy because since their birth, they are obliged to make things that they doesn't want to do, for exemple they want to touch the flowers and books: they have electric shocks to obliged babies stopped their envies.
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fafa-yeah wrote:fafa-yeah wrote:fafa-yeah wrote:I think the conditioning of children is inhumain . They are not free and they will never have true feelings. they will love only what they have been imoposed , they are raised as pets
. The baby will never identity and to exist it must have its own identity .
they do not own traits , and they do no have their own physical . They have no familly becouse they are artificially created .
The embryos are viewed as mere objects , they are '' build '' as a factory .
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director of a center believe that the identity of a society is more important than
individuals identity, it’s what the director believe but it is
possible that it’s wrong: people can think the opposite.
director of a center believe that the identity of a society is more important than
individuals identity, it’s what the director believe but it is
possible that it’s wrong: people can think the opposite.
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